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I've heard talks that you know, there is no

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threat anymore because they've exhausted themselves. No, they

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haven't, they have plenty of uh troops still who

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can come. They are not counting the lives that

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they are losing. They are not counting the artillery

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that they are using, losing their So um,

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so I don't think that we should underestimate them in

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the longer term to to still keep this up all

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the time. It appears quite likely that Ukraine will

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be given eU candidacy in the upcoming meeting in brussels

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. How likely do you think this is fingers crossed

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? I hope so. I think we have come

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a long way and and we have had such intense

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discussions with our you know members of european Union,

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some countries that were very skeptical two months ago and

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and I'm I'm happy to say to hear different signals

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coming from different different member states regarding this, that

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they are on board. We have done the same

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mistake already three times saying that you know, negotiations

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, negotiated peace is the goal and and we have

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seen that every next time, the only thing that

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Putin hears from this is that um I can do

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this because no punishment will follow and every time,

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every next time will be more with more human suffering

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than the last one was. So I think for

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us it is important to not make that mistake again

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, like we did in Crimea Donbas Georgia. We

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have to have strategic patients when it comes to sanctions

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. It was first, I mean clear from the

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start that sanctions is economical tool that is in the

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hands of european union. We are not the military

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alliance. Uh, this is the only tool that

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we really have, but it has effect over time

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. I still think that the effect should be felt

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by the Russian population as well. Because if you

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look at the support for Putin is very high and

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also not even Putin, but also for the war

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crimes. You know, they are inciting genocide and

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the soldiers are following this. They are bragging about

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this to their wives and to their mothers. And

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if the wives and mothers say that this is okay

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, what you're doing there. I mean, this

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is also the war that the Russia and Russian people

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are holding up in Ukraine.