Let me ask you this. Let me ask y'all
this one because everybody has painted out the Bengals to
be the Chiefs biggest rival. If y'all remember prior
to the Bengals and the Chiefs facing off this past
year, I believe it was the AFC championship game
. Once again, many said that the Bengals had
the Chiefs number because the previous year Bengals beat the
Chiefs to go to the three in one borough was
three and one at the time. Mahomes. Is
this a rivalry? It's a conversation with 26 years
of NFL experience between the three of us, three
Super Bowls. I have none for the record for
those keeping track and home holding it down. Is
this a real rivalry will where you stand on this
? No, this is not a rivalry man.
But if we're talking championships, there is a rivalry
. If Kansas City did not have any Super Bowl
wins, I would say yes, this is rivalry
. Um or if they were within the same division
, uh wish they're not. I would say yes
, but right now Kansas City, yeah, a
little resistance. Joe, bro, is that dude
, he's here in town trying to make some noise
, bringing the Bengals along with him competing. But
at the end of the day, if we're not
battling on who's winning the championship, no, it's
not a rivalry at all whatsoever. Uh, Shady
. Do you think that the Bengals are out of
pocket for as much trash talk as they do?
Because Jamar Chase saying Pat who though? It wasn't
Jess, it's still wildly disrespectful to maybe the greatest
quarterback of the, one of the greatest. It's
wildly out of pocket because you, they ask your
quarterback and he saw without a doubt was he's the
best player in the league. So for you to
say that's like, hold up the dudes. You
pumping Joe Burrow knows that I'm the best. What
are we talking about? It can't be a rivalry
and yes, they are super out of pocket.
I mean, right now the Chiefs are, are
, are ahead of everybody. Every time we talk
about a championship, the first team we're gonna think
about is Pastor Holmes and the Kansas City Chiefs.
It's like, it's like when we were in basketball
and you guys did the basketball segment, like when
they were trying to make the Warriors a grizzly a
rivalry. Like no, yeah, like it's not
like, yes, Memphis is, is making some
noise, they're playing hard. But if you're not
competing for titles with the Golden State Warriors, it
is not a rivalry at all whatsoever. Let's have
a real ball conversation. There is nobody to dilute
the conversation shade, you might get upset. Well
, I'm interested in what you're saying. Let's have
a real ball conversation. It's a locker room conversation
that y'all will be privy to. Um, is
it crazy to make the statement that Joe Burrow is
better than Pat if you wanted to say? Well
, Pat has Andy Reid, the most creative offensive
mind. Maybe the game has ever seen. Joe
Burrow doesn't have Andy Reid, Joe Burrow has played
in two healthy seasons, scratch that three healthy seasons
. Is it crazy if someone wanted to make the
argument that Joe Burrow, if he was given Andy
Reid would be doing what Patrick Mahomes is doing.
You play DB for 12 years, you've seen every
quarterback where teammates with Aaron Rodgers? Is it crazy
? Let me ask you a question. Yes,
sir. Before I answer, who is the greatest
receiver of all time? I would say Randy Moss
. Randy Moss, would you say, would you
say Jerry Rice in that conversation though? Right.
Yeah, of course. So if someone were to
say, well, Jerry Rice played with Joe Montana
M V P, he played with Steve Young M
V P and he also had rich game of the
year. He won M V P. You know
what I'm saying? Now, does that take away
from his greatness, his greatness? No, or
perhaps the fact that Jerry Rice was out there cooking
and getting open where it was a perfect marriage does
it help? Oh Shady, I got you.
So I would say that was a good one.
I, I will say for, for my home
. Yeah, sure. It does help whatsoever.
But I, I, I just truly believe like
Patri Holmes like is, is that dude, he's
that nice. That's why last year when they moved
on for Tyrique. I'm like, it's all good
because they're just gonna, they're just gonna sign part
returners and just get them the ball. They just
brought Richard James. Another part returner over there was
to another part returner, Scott Moore, another part
returner. All these dudes just make plays shady.
It doesn't take away from greatness, but it helps
quantify it before you joined this show. I used
to watch your tapes. I wanted to see what
Shady do. Well, where could he improve all
the things? One of the most intriguing conversations you
said, stop me. If you don't want me
to go there, you were talking about the Colts
and you said in the Colts heyday when Edin James
was out there who was a Hall of Famer and
Edwin James got busy. Shady made a phenomenal point
. He said, well, remember Edwin James had
Peyton Manning, he had Reggie Wayne, he had
Marvin Harris, he had Dallas Clark. Uh He
may have had Jeff Saturday like all of those great
Colts players. Edri James was a beneficiary of it's
not to take away from Edri James greatness, but
it's to quantify it is to add context to it
. Can't you add context to the greatness of Patrick
Mones by no means, does it take away from
it? But can you add the context to it
? He was there with Tyree Tyree kill for several
years with Travis Kelsey will end up being the greatest
, receiving tight end of all time. Tyree Kill
a complete phenom. Andy Reid one of the greatest
offensive minds. Can you add context, man?
I, I, I, I get what you're
saying. I get it. I just think that
it's so different between Patri Hols because he, he's
such a great talent. Right. Right. And
, and I do think that the team he plays
on, they do a phenomenal job of drafting players
and, and having a real functional, um,
franchise. So I get what you're saying. But
even in Joe Burrow, like Joe bro has a
better offensive supporting cast in position for sure. I
mean, so as much as you wanna go to
that route with, because Andy Reid is a great
, I mean, he didn't win until they got
home. No, no, no, no,
he a championship because he's, he's, he's always
, he's been a winner. That's what I'm saying
. And I think that it's a, it's a
perfect match. I mean, no, I'm saying
no, no, I mean, like there's a
point of time like that we're talking championships here.
So championship I think is a perfect matchup, great
coach, great quarterback. Boom, everybody you talked
about. Great coach, perfect match quarterback, boom 00:05:30.778 --> , wins.