Uh top five is Magic Kobe, Michael Jordan,
lebron and Shaq. Very Lakers centric with lebron and
the Lakers. Well, that's kind of how it
works. Most of the great players play at some
point for the Lakers. I I'll say this about
Kobe and, and back in 04 when they played
Detroit in the finals and um Kobe was phenomenal,
obviously. Uh Shaq, that's when Shaq was saying
Kobe is the best player ever. And I went
up to him privately and I was like, you've
been saying Kobe is the best ever. I said
, what about Jordan? And he said, what
about him? Like, so he, he loves
Kobe? All right. So, and you weren't
saying Kobe was phenomenal in the 04 finals there?
No, just that phenomenal. Right. Right.
Um I look at his list, obviously, it
was contemporaries essentially because he, he let Shaq has
always put himself behind Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain,
Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So that was a little shocking
that he put himself on the list ahead of those
guys. It's fine, but, you know,
usually would defer to those guys and there's only one
guy on the list that he didn't play against Karim
. Isaiah was obviously toward the end of his,
his career, he played a couple of years against
Isaiah. Um, look, I Iverson and Karl
Malone and Isaiah are not top 10 of all time
. I think Isaiah is just, just short.
It's just outside. I think he's the second best
small player ever to curry A I though, put
48 on Shaq and the Lakers after 501 finals game
won that game. Yeah, and that's where,
that's why, you know, I'm sure he's got
the major respect for A I and Karl Malone.
Nick beat Shaq two straight years in the playoffs beating
and swept in once it was eight out of nine
games they won. So I'm sure. And how
about a week, how about Karl Malone this week
? Doctor J and Shaq put him on his top
10. So two time MVP. I think the
only people with more first team all nbas in league
history are lebron Kareem and Kobe, the longevity is
unbelievable. And here's the other thing for Shaq with
Malone. I bet Shaq believes as, I think
a lot of us believe in four, they win
that title if Malone doesn't get hurt because Malone got
hurt. They were, they were Rick Fox got
hurt, they were down, they basically lost all
of their starting forwards right before they played the Four
Pistons. So my, I have one semi serious
takeaway and one serious takeaway. I agree with you
on Iverson. It, it's the least popular thing
to do on television is to say A I is
a touch over rated because he's an icon, but
it's, it touch overrated here. But you guys
know my semi serious thing is this, you guys
know if you're gonna give a starting five, I
like there to be, you know, you to
fill out the five starting positions. And if Shaq
wants to have Kobe be his starting shooting guard,
more power to him, send him Jay to the
bench and give us a small phone. He's gonna
be a problem on the bench. I got,
I just tell you MJ and Isaiah on the bench
right now. Hold on if we can put it
back up there. Now, my serious take though
because that was I'm so lebron. Yeah, that
team could play, of course, they could play
, they could all play together. Um But here
, but here's my serious take. Steph Curry does
not show up on these 18 months ago and Steph
what he did with the fourth championship and then this
year with that dysfunctional team putting them on his back
, getting that game, you know, all of
it, Steph Curry. Now being there's only two
contemporary moment, contemporary guys on this list. Lebron
James who is in the discussion for greatest player ever
and it's not Giannis and it's not Durant and it's
not, it's Steph Curry and nobody looks at that
as crazy like Steph Curry being in people's top 10
. I know that we had a whole thing about
it. He's now top 10. My point is
if you leave out the, if you leave out
the guys like Wilton Russell, yes, he's there
. And that just to me I hadn't seen because
usually the top tens we're getting from these older guys
. They are so skewed to their era. You
know what I mean? We saw lebron left out
of Dr Jas. We've seen a lot of bad
ones. This is the first one. You know
what I mean? With someone clearly put real thought
into that. I've seen from a player that I
saw Steph on, I'm like, man Seth is
going to just be on these now. Yeah.
Do you like it? Because Shaq really set it
up as like here's my starting five and here's the
bench that I just need shooting and I'm going to
take Steph. Yeah, I mean, he obviously
he's the greatest shooter ever. He's really the only
shooter on there on that. Like just knock down
drag out shooter. But, uh which is also
if, when you do the exercises of like build
the most unstoppable starting five ever, which is a
different discussion, the five best players. That's where
Steph has an argument over magic to be your starting
point guard. Not because listen, I will,
I will go to my grave. What unless steps
, if step, depending on what happens steps career
saying magic in 12 years. Unbelievable. And he's
a top five player of all time, but because
you can, lebron could play a point. But
, but Steph's shooting is such a cheat code and
when you're building these, you know, best fives
ever, you're gonna have great defenders everywhere else.
So you're not gonna have to worry about Step's lack
of size. You almost have to include it.
You only, you know what I mean? Like
, you almost have to include him because it's such
a unique thing. He would add to your fake
game against the aliens to save the, that's just
one game or is that a full 82 game season
? It's a best of seven series. I wanna
see an 82 like a full team, a full
team because you need a glue guy, you need
there. It's just like your 12th guy. That's
like, yeah, great, great guy of all
time. The guy is not getting.