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Dennis, How are you doing this? How are

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you making it that I can get into my office

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in a safe manner? They know that I've been

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checked and they know that I'm not perhaps carrying Covid

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, but they're not actually getting access to my own

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data in some way. Yes. So thanks for

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having me. The way we do this is simply

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use the smartphone as the digital version of your vaccine

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certificate where it stays locally on the phone and all

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that's being shared. When you do tap into to

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check into a building is the verification to say that

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okay, this person has been verified as if a

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vaccinated or recently tested negative or as pastor health screen

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. Uh, and then therefore no actual information you

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share. Just a verification. It's kind of like

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going to the bar and instead of sharing your driver's

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license to see that you're over 21. It's basically

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just just seeing that you're over 21 and they don't

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need to know what your addresses or anything else about

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you. And so that's how we essentially design and

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build our technologies to make sure that privacy is always

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preserved. It's always kept on the smartphone. And

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what should really is just a verification piece. I

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have a feeling you're pretty a pretty busy man.

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How much has business been scaling at this point?

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Was this what you had always been destined to be

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making proxy for? Was it some sort of pivot

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for you? Well, this was uh, an

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acceleration of what we were building. We started out

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really using the smartphone to replace employee badges and corporate

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access passes so that you can replace those plastics and

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use your smartphone is dead and soon to be wearables

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. And the whole idea is that because we're all

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carrying smartphones with us, can we use that as

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a, as a credential? And can we do

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this in a private way that you're not sharing any

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information? You're not sharing anything with the building.

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You know so that we can maintain people's privacy and

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while at the same time give people a better experience

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, make things a lot simpler for them. Uh

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Because we're all carrying around a smartphone, the whole

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idea is to use that smartphone now because health has

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become a big concern about customers making sure that they're

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reopening in a healthy environment. A lot of our

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customers have asked us how do we also ensure people

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are healthy? Uh And so we've introduced the health

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past capability really as just another credential. It's your

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employee I. D. Badge. But it's something

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that you keep locally as a verified a testament that

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you're vaccinated or you tested negative. The goal for

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a lot of our customers is really thinking about how

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do we reopen safely and keep everyone healthy? And

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so we well leaned into that direction, both for

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ourselves and for a lot of our customers because we're

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asking the same question, how do we reopen our

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office in san Francisco while keeping everyone safe? And

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we don't want anyone getting sick, so, and

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at the end of the day, we also don't

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want to be looking at anyone's health passes. So

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it's very important for us to use our technology in

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a way that can actually help businesses reopen. What

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are the reticence is that you're having to fight back

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on what a company is asking you what, why

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would they be nervous to enact this in some way

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? Um It's just adding a lot more friction in

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some cases, it's like more steps when everyone wants

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to get back to normal. Uh the big question

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that always comes up and that we ask a lot

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of our customers is, what are you reopening to

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? Uh, you know, that always leads into

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more questions and you know, while everyone has a

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perception of reopening back into the old days of how

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things were done really. The reality is we're moving

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into a new world of reopening to a new,

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healthy environment and so people are looking for those tools

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and and try to understand what's the best way to

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do these things to keep businesses open to not have

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to shut down to make sure if someone is sick

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, that measures can be taken to limit the exposure

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or at least reported in a way so that you

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don't have to shut down the whole building, but

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you can at least inform the right people to let

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them know that somebody is not feeling so well,

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maybe I don't want to come in the office tomorrow

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. But those things are now really important. And

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you know, the pushback is really about can we

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do this in a simple way, people's privacy as

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well?

